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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Notes taken at &amp;quot;Making It Easier&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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; Present: Joan (Zonta), Sydney (Kitchener Public Library), Bill (Trinity United Church), Sylvia (Reception House), Mike (First United Church), Bob (facilitator)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Value Statements ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Equity &amp;amp; Fairness&lt;br /&gt;
* Legacy for the Future&lt;br /&gt;
* Compassion&lt;br /&gt;
* Community of Voices&lt;br /&gt;
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Which of these apply to you?&lt;br /&gt;
* Service Organization&lt;br /&gt;
** Clearly all of them!&lt;br /&gt;
* Zonta&lt;br /&gt;
** All about Equity and Fairness for women&lt;br /&gt;
** Community&lt;br /&gt;
** Communication&lt;br /&gt;
** Same direction as others&lt;br /&gt;
* Social Work (Reception House)&lt;br /&gt;
** Legacy!&lt;br /&gt;
** Equity and Fairness&lt;br /&gt;
*** But sometimes not everyone agrees on what that is&lt;br /&gt;
* Minister (of Trinity)&lt;br /&gt;
** Once you do something, it always seems to fall short of the orginal goal&lt;br /&gt;
*** But keep trying!&lt;br /&gt;
* Social Work (Library)&lt;br /&gt;
** Evolving&lt;br /&gt;
*** And the library evolves as we evolve&lt;br /&gt;
* Tech community&lt;br /&gt;
** At first the tech community members would say none of them apply, we're only about tech&lt;br /&gt;
** But we have meetings and events, so we're a community of voices&lt;br /&gt;
** And we have events where we teach others, so we're trying to leave a legacy for the future&lt;br /&gt;
** And many tech organizations advocate for the freedom of users against corporate interests, so that's equity and fairness&lt;br /&gt;
** And in the Free Software advocates want to make software and knowledge available to all, so there's compassion too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Common Needs ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Being known, getting support from other groups&lt;br /&gt;
* Sharing information, resources&lt;br /&gt;
* Communication _about_ the groups (not everyone knows what we do or what we stand for)&lt;br /&gt;
* Programs are collaborative with other likeminded groups&lt;br /&gt;
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* Space (Meeting, Presentation, and Storage to a lesser degree)&lt;br /&gt;
* Funding&lt;br /&gt;
* Resources&lt;br /&gt;
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* Reachout to others&lt;br /&gt;
** Issues are siloed, get ourselves out of our silo&lt;br /&gt;
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* Get positive press&lt;br /&gt;
** Mainstream Media is not always &amp;quot;with the program&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
** It is *not* true that &amp;quot;any press is good press&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
** Involve press appropriately (how?)&lt;br /&gt;
** Empathy&lt;br /&gt;
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* Meeting space&lt;br /&gt;
** How to involve groups&lt;br /&gt;
** Church (First United) has outreach projects, outside of the congregation&lt;br /&gt;
*** But you need to know who to talk to&lt;br /&gt;
** Need a Community resource to provide contacts&lt;br /&gt;
*** to find space, to let others know space is available&lt;br /&gt;
** At University&lt;br /&gt;
*** Dinner meetings: Pay for dinner, space is free&lt;br /&gt;
** Need After-hours space (after business hours, weekends)&lt;br /&gt;
** There is a perception against churches&lt;br /&gt;
*** Some people don't realize that church spaces are available without needing religious affiliation&lt;br /&gt;
*** But meeting in a religious setting is still uncomfortable for some&lt;br /&gt;
** Space must be Safe, Hospitable, Clean&lt;br /&gt;
*** Especially for organizations working with vulnerable people&lt;br /&gt;
*** But think of Airbnb -- seems safe enough&lt;br /&gt;
**** But there are counterexamples, eg. Uber drivers&lt;br /&gt;
** Need appropriate space&lt;br /&gt;
*** Can't just use any old big open room&lt;br /&gt;
*** eg. storage of servers, need electricity&lt;br /&gt;
*** Again, knowing what space is available&lt;br /&gt;
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* How to disseminate information?&lt;br /&gt;
** And keep it accurate?&lt;br /&gt;
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* There are good organizations in the community&lt;br /&gt;
** eg. Google&lt;br /&gt;
** other potential business partners&lt;br /&gt;
** But businesses are narrowing support, fewer opportunities for partnerships&lt;br /&gt;
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* Plan how to do without&lt;br /&gt;
** Then it's a bonus when you get buy-in from the community&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Only dead fish go with the flow&amp;quot; --Mike Savage&lt;br /&gt;
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* Groups countering the mainstream don't get mainstream support&lt;br /&gt;
** But in many cases our organizations exist precisely to counter the mainstream!&lt;br /&gt;
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* Can't grow with limited resources&lt;br /&gt;
** eg. using someone's house limits the size of meetings&lt;br /&gt;
* Encourage sharing resources and information&lt;br /&gt;
** (this was originally &amp;quot;Overcome tendency to hoard resources and information&amp;quot;, but this wording is more positive)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Get buy-in from lots of people (the community), then approach politicians.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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